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RockWater analysis to make you a better investor and operator. Today we discuss Highmount Capital’s $100M+ investment into Dude Perfect, the company’s growth plans, how to model out their planned LBE business, and how we estimate Highmount’s ROI.

 

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Dude Perfect raised $100M for global biz expansion.

The deal is getting lots of buzz, but our team’s math signals challenges ahead.

Let’s break it down…

 

🤝DEAL DETAILS

 

💰USE OF FUNDS

 

👀COMPANY OVERVIEW: Dude Perfect

 

🚀PERFORMANCE HIGHLIGHTS

 

📝ORIGIN STORY

 

💡INVESTOR OVERVIEW: Highmount Capital

 

🤔What else I find interesting…

I really like and support the trend of increased investment into YouTubers and digital-native media brands. 

But as I wrote about in my 2024 State of Creator x Media M&A and fundraising reports (here and here), investment has to match the market and opportunity size. 

To ensure good ROI, and to set good precedent for future investment into our space.

This Dude Perfect bet is exciting, but seems overly optimistic based on our team’s prelim math… 

 

🤔How we’re modeling potential investor ROI…

The ROI analysis for a $100M investment is important for creator economy investors and operators to understand.

Here’s some context…

I’ve seen ROI analysis for a $100M direct investment into a family-based entertainment destination in Frisco, TX – shout-out to my colleague Michael Booth’s analysis, shared below.

But I’m also curious to Highmount Capital’s angle in being a large minority owner of all of Dude Perfect over a medium-term hold period.

So here’s my math to break it down…

Dude Perfect estimates 2024 revenue of $50M.

And Highmount invested $100M. 

Assume Highmount targets a 40% ownership stake (which is high, but I’ll explain why below).

That implies a $250M total valuation, and a forward revenue multiple of 5x. 

(that’s a high media multiple, particularly for a forward number. But if I assumed a 30% ownership stake, that implies a $333M valuation and a 6.7x forward multiple! I’m trying to keep this number within the upper bounds of market reality, and it already feels stretched…).

Then assume Highmount targets a 25% IRR over a 5 year hold period, which equates to a 3x gross return on invested capital (IRR targets for growth PE is 20 to 30%+).

That means Dude Perfect needs to get to a $750M valuation.

Assuming no multiple expansion, a 5x forward revenue multiple implies a future revenue hurdle of $150M (750 / 5 = 150). That’s a 3x revenue increase from 2024E…a big jump!

At 40% ownership of $750M, that implies $300M total value of ownership stake, or a tripling of Highmount’s investment in 5 years. Of note, a tripling of revenue is aggressive growth across all monetization channels, from ticketed events and advertising to consumer products and licensing.

Lots of work to do for the DP team and their newly hired mgmt!

Further, that IRR target assumes there’s some type of liquidity event at the end of 5 years i.e. there’s a buyer of the Dude Perfect biz at $750M. Today in 2024, I can’t think of a buyer with strong strategic synergy that has the funds to do that type and size of deal.

Maybe possible in the future though….

 

💡Two other interesting angles on Highmount’s potential LPs…

Dude Perfect has a faith-based mission: “We’re about giving back, spreading joy and glorifying Jesus Christ”.

Three members of Highmount’s leadership, including their two founders, have faith-based affiliations per their website bios.

Makes me wonder who the LPs are in Highmount – could be parties who have faith-based investment mandates, where financial ROI may not be the only metric for success.

Think church pension funds, religious groups, HNIs, and family offices.

Of note, I’m not personally aware of much PR or press coverage of faith-based organizations investing in the creator economy. This could signal a new trend worth paying attention to, or simply that more press coverage is needed. 

I mean, one could say that religion is the OG of the creator-based economy…but that’s for a separate blog post. 

And speaking of LPs, it’s also worth noting that Highmount’s CEO and COO are both former Koch Industries (“KI”) execs. KI is the 2nd largest private company in the US (after Cargill) and is estimated to do over $125B in annual revenue and employ over 120,000 global employees. KI CEO Charles Koch and his political network are also major donors to Republican and libertarian causes.

KI is based in Wichita Kansas, and Highmount’s website lists offices in both Wichita and NYC. Makes me think that KI or affiliated parties could be a meaningful LP in the new Highmount fund, and thus have a meaningful influence on Highmount’s future investments.

Again, I can’t confirm any of this, as I’m just speculating.

Overall, I look forward to tracking the growth of Dude Perfect, the new Highmount fund, and its future creator x media investments.

 

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I’m the founder of RockWater Industries. We do financial and strategy advisory for media, agencies, and creator economy. From M&A and fundraising to consumer research and go-to-market planning. 

DM me on LinkedIn or email me chris @ wearerockwater dot com

 

Now some more analysis from Mike Booth on our team…

 

ROI Analysis of Dude Perfect’s $100M Raise

By Mike Booth

Am I getting punked? 🤔

Dude Perfect raised $100M from PE, which I love — big investors coming into the Creator Economy is great for business. The kicker – Dude Perfect is spending the $100M to build out their rendition of Disneyworld in metro Dallas. Its essentially an amusement equipped with sports courses, F&B, and some retail concepts all packaged into one. What?!

The economics for this plan are never going to pencil.

  1. $100M is way too much to spend for build out and construction.

  2. Theme parks aren’t high margin businesses. For reference Cedar Fair Entertainment Company (owner of Cedar Point) operates at 6% net income margin and Six Flags operates at 3% net income margin.

  3. Dallas isn’t the right market. It’s not even the top tourism destination within the Texas (shout out San Antonio). To justify a $100M build out Dude Perfect will need a very high amount of traffic (think Las Vegas, Orlando, New York, Atlanta, etc.).

Say the average Dude Perfect attendee spends $100 and the net margin on each attendee is 5%. Simply put, every attendee = $5 profit. Dude Perfect would need 20M attendees to recoup a $100M initial investment (let alone budget for renovations, new attractions, etc.)

Los Angeles MSA’s population + annual tourists combine to 70M per year.

Six Flags Magic Mountain (metro LA) has 3.5M visitors per year. 3.5/70 = 5% capture rates.

Let’s stipulate for the sake of argument that Dude Perfect’s entertainment venue instantly becomes just as popular as Six Flags (it won’t).

Dallas MSA’s population + annual tourism combines for 35M. Say Dude Perfect pulls off a 5% capture rate of their addressable market (a major feat). That comes out to 1.75M guests per year.

At a $100M build out cost, $10 profit per guest, no reinvestment into facilities, and 1.75M guests per year –> it will take six years for Dude Perfect to recoup their initial investment.

That’s way too long of a payback for a location based entertainment attraction.

Quick-growing private companies like Topgolf average 2 years for payback

Whereas bigger amusement parks like Six Flags average 3 years for payback.

Net / Net – there are so many exciting things that Dude Perfect could do to grow its brand — expanding their content suite, launching CPG brands, or creating upstream film / TV properties.

I’m left perplexed by their decision of apeing into theme parks. What am I missing?

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Mike is a Director at RockWater Industries. We do financial and strategy advisory for media, agencies, and creator economy. From M&A and fundraising to consumer research and go-to-market planning.

DM Mike on LinkedIn or email him mike @ wearerockwater dot com

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For Gen Z, TikTok is More Than Entertainment. It’s a Search Engine.
Mashable, 7.31.2022

The RockWater Take by Chris Erwin

Gen Z’s search behavior is different than that of Millennials. They want bite-sized “vibe checks” w/ no fluff.

As in, no extended personal stories of chefs before a blog-based food recipe.

And short videos of restaurant views, ambiance, and food in under 10 seconds.

I feel that.

Historically, my lifestyle search + purchase flows consisted of…

🥘 Yelp + Eater for restaurants, reservations via OpenTable or Resy.

👩‍🍳 Google search for recipes, then saved in my Paprika 3 app.

✈️ Tripadvisor for travel, then booked via Expedia Group (RIP Hipmunk).

🛒 Wirecutter for tech + gear, or just go direct to my fave brands like Burton Snowboards or Patagonia

But after playing around with the TikTok search and Collections folders this AM, and finding some rad San Diego restaurants with ocean views in less than 30 sec of searching, I’m sold on this new search flow.

Excited to put this to use for my upcoming 2 week southeast US road trip at the end of August 😉 “Things to do in Asheville / Charleston”, here I come TikTok.

Which also makes me excited for new purchase and commerce flows TikTok will experiment with…table reservations, flight bookings, food ingredient delivery, and more!

…also has implications for the new recommendation algos being put in place by FB / IG, but that’s a separate post 😉

 

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Amazon Plans Alternative Telecast of TNF With ‘Dude Perfect’
Front Office Sports, 8.1.2022

The RockWater Take by Alex Zirin

As alternative telecasts have permeated NFL broadcasts over the last few seasons (ESPN’s Monday Night Football Manningcast, ViacomCBS’ NFL on Nickelodeon broadcast, etc.), Amazon has taken a firm step into the creator economy with their latest edition, TNF with Dude Perfect.

Dude Perfect, known for their viral sports-themed YouTube channel, will host alternate broadcasts for a still-to-be announced amount of Thursday Night Football games this season.

Interestingly, this is not Dude Perfect’s first foray into professional sports promotion. This spring, the team produced a controversial video at Augusta National’s Amen Corner for the 2022 Masters Tournament with the goal of engaging a new group of fans.

Regardless of how ‘sacred’ a sporting venue or event is deemed by its most faithful, the reach of successful creators, coupled with engagement metrics that mainstay sports could only dream of, presents an opportunity to attract younger fans that can’t be ignored.

By coupling their $1B investment in Thursday Night Football rights with the ethos of portfolio-co Twitch, Amazon is betting that Dude Perfect will unlock a new tranche of fans that were previously uninterested in NFL broadcasts. For those more interested in traditional football coverage, Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreit will still narrate the main broadcast.

However, fans of Dude Perfect will have the opportunity to watch some of the world’s most popular creators doing what they do best, “mastering the impossible”. The simulcast will feature their usual fanfare, performing dunks, stunts, and tricks from their HQ in Texas.

Amazon wants to create an “opportunity for families to watch together”, but I’m not sure that’s what this activation will accomplish. As sports media broadcasters look to engage new fanbases, a segmented approach which addresses each audience group on an individual basis does more to divide an audience than it does to unify them. I’m certain that more total fans will tune into Amazon’s various broadcasts than they would have otherwise, but I’m bearish on the fact that they’ll watch together. More likely, each fan will simply tune into the broadcast tailored for their fandom, and ignore the rest.

 

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The End of Social Media and the Rise of Recommendation Media
Every, 7.30.2022

The RockWater Take by Mike Booth:

Recommendation media is overtaking social media. The Winners: platforms & micro creators. The Losers: mega creators.

Social media (Instagram, Snap, et al) rely on social graphs to distribute content, whereas recommendation media (TikTok and YouTube) rely on interest graphs to feed an all-knowing algorithm which then distributes content.

In social media, building followership creates exponential growth, because each new follower acts as a distribution node to audiences that a creator’s content previously wasn’t reaching.

At maturity this dynamic creates a small group of mega winners who effectively capture a platform’s programming power.

Once that programming power is captured, it is tremendously difficult for micro creators to scale their reach.

Conversely, in recommendation media followers are much less valuable to scale a creator’s content distribution.

Recommendation media algorithms are constantly optimizing to farm the most engaging content, meaning every view is a battle between creators for quality.

This levels the distribution playing field between mega and micro creators.

It also gives programming power back to platforms (after it was taken by mega creators in social media).

When platforms control the algorithm, they control content virality.

I like Michael Mignano’s quote here:

“In recommendation media, it’s ultimately up to the platform to decide what type of content gets recommended, not the social graph of the person producing the content. In contrast to social media, recommendation media is not a competition based on popularity; instead, it is a competition based on the absolute best content. Through this lens, it’s no wonder why Kylie Jenner opposes this change; her more than 360 million followers are simply worth less in a version of media dominated by algorithms and not followers.”

Some things it makes me think about:

 

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Hi readers,

Back on the east coast after a great time in LA last week. Also, the nor’easter came and went, and I’m thankful for this edit.

Now on to today’s M&A deal breakdown…

The Podcast Consultant bought Rise25 in August, its second deal of 2026 after Sundial Media in June. Terms undisclosed, which is standard for the smaller end of the market.

So I called the buyer.

Karl Hughes, owner of The Podcast Consultant, walked me through how he actually paid for the deal, which changed from his first deal a few years back. His 2023 purchase of TPC was 75% SBA loan, with a personal guarantee and his other company pledged as collateral. On Sundial and Rise25 he used no bank financing…the most recent Rise25 deal was 30% cash at close, 30% deferred a year, and 40% seller note over five years.

And he guaranteed none of it personally. A material deal term improvement as Hughes scales his M&A rollup.

The key takeaway for me is that financing in our industry is still being established at both ends of the spectrum.

Creator tech raises on standard venture terms. Creator x social marketing agencies are increasingly well understood by private equity and peer strategic buyers. But YouTube channels, social publishers, podcast shops…a lot of buyer and financier education is still needed, and underwriting structures are not yet standardized. For example, I’m seeing proposals of seller paper on deals for below $1M of EBITDA, and then up to $100M in revenue.

Below I compare Hughes’ two capital stacks side by side, how he positions a seller note to founders before diligence even starts, and who is bidding at each end of this market.

Lastly, check out our upcoming NYC holiday party.

 

–SELLER: Rise25–

Overview

  • Done-for-you B2B podcast agency; strategy, production, distribution
  • Sells podcasting as a business development channel, not an audience play
  • Founded 2015 by Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran
  • Acquired by The Podcast Consultant, Aug 12, 2026
  • 35+ staff globally

Company Highlights

  • 60+ clients on the roster at close
  • #116 on Inc’s Midwest Regionals fastest-growing list, 2023
  • Brands featured or worked with incl Salesforce, Mattel, Nordstrom, OpenTable, LendingTree, Atari, Tony Robbins
  • Proprietary tooling incl a “Podcast Copilot” platform and a Dream200 target-account roadmap
  • Weisz has hosted Inspired Insider since 2011, after six years producing Mixergy
  • Corcoran launched Smart Business Revolution in 2012, 1,500+ interviews

Founding Story

  • Weisz and Corcoran started Rise25 in 2015 after using podcasts to build their own businesses…Weisz runs a chiropractic facility and a supplement biz, Corcoran is an attorney and former Clinton White House speechwriter
  • Their insight was that B2B founders wanted the relationships a podcast creates, not the downloads. They positioned the show as a referral engine with guest booking targeted at people the client wants to meet
  • Of note, Rise25 was exploring its own rollup strategy before it sold. Feb 2023 buy box: $200K to $1.5M gross revenue, $100K minimum EBITDA, no client over 40% of TTM revenue. Weisz said in late 2023 they wanted 1 to 2 podcast companies that year, though I found no evidence they closed any deals

Business Model & Services

  • Done-for-you production…
  • Full-service show management for B2B clients. Retainer basis, price not published.
  • Strategic guest booking…
  • Outreach aimed at prospects and referral partners. In the retainer, six-month minimum.
  • Power Hour sessions…
  • Standalone recorded interview sessions. $1,000 per session.
  • Production add-ons…
  • Cover art $350, voiceover intro/outro $450, hosting around $15/month.

Owners & Selling Shareholders

  • Weisz and Corcoran held the equity as co-founders, no disclosed outside capital
  • Corcoran has written that he sold his shares in this deal to go full time on his new AI venture

Financials

  • Not disclosed

Select Capital Markets History

  • 2015: Founded by Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran, bootstrapped
  • Feb 2023: Publishes its own acquisition criteria and starts looking at tuck-ins
  • Aug 2026: Acquired by The Podcast Consultant, terms undisclosed

 

–BUYER: The Podcast Consultant–

Overview

  • Podcast production agency for financial services, professional services, higher ed
  • Building a multi-brand group of B2B media production cos
  • 20+ audio engineers, editors and producers
  • Owned by Karl Hughes and Manuel Weiss
  • HQ in Chicago

Company Highlights

  • 100M+ total downloads
  • 10,000+ episodes produced since 2015
  • Clients incl Colossus (Invest Like the Best), Capital Allocators, Ark Invest, Franklin Templeton, WisdomTree, CFA Institute, Columbia Business School
  • Two acquisitions closed in 2026… Sundial Media in June, Rise25 in August
  • Hughes has published targets of $2M to $3M revenue in 2027 and $4M to $6M in 2028, via more deals
  • Hughes and Weiss say on their portfolio page they’re building toward a 2030 exit

Founding Story

  • Founded 2015 by Mathew Passy, who built TPC as a specialist for finance and investing shows, which need higher-touch production and compliance review
  • Current owner Hughes came from the other direction…ex-startup CTO, founded developer marketing agency Draft.dev in 2020 and grew it past $2.5M of revenue by 2022
  • Hughes got the idea to buy rather than build from search fund alum at Kellogg School of Management (Northwestern). His reasoning: if a bank will lend a random MBA grad the money to buy a company, why not him
  • So he hit an entrepreneurship-through-acquisition conference in Chicago, built a list of 100+ podcast agencies on Sales Navigator, and cold-DM’d them. Passy of TPC thought the first message was spam (shows why resilience matters in M&A!)
  • Hughes considered 200+ agencies and spoke to 40 before landing on TPC, and closed on the acquisition in 2023

Business Model & Services

  • Show production…
  • Audio and video editing and finishing, remote recording, show ops for 80+ active shows. Monthly retainer, rates not published.
  • Launch and strategy…
  • Show design, format and launch for new corporate programs. Project fee, not published.
  • Compliance-aware production…
  • Extra review layers for RIAs, asset managers and wealth firms. Built into the retainer, and the reason clients in this niche don’t shop on price.
  • Shared services across the group…
  • Production, ops, client support, tech and admin run centrally. Internal, no external fee.

Financials

  • Not disclosed. Only public figures are from the 2023 change of control, see Capital Markets History below.

Select Capital Markets History

  • Oct 2022: Karl Hughes and Manuel Weiss sign an LOI for TPC acquisition
  • Apr 2023: Deal closes. High six figures on roughly $750K of revenue and $250K of SDE, call it 3x SDE. Funded 10% cash / 75% SBA 7(a) / 15% seller note. Price and SDE are based on Hughes’ appearance on the Acquiring Minds podcast, treat as approximate
  • Jun 2026: Acquires Sundial Media. Sundial brand retired
  • Aug 2026: Acquires Rise25. Rise25 brand retained

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

  • Announced Aug 12, 2026. Terms not disclosed
  • Jeremy Weisz becomes Director of Client Success, leading sales and partnerships across the whole portfolio, not just Rise25
  • John Corcoran exits to build Smart Business Revolution AI, a generative engine optimization agency
  • Adam Hendricks, who came in with Sundial, runs ops for the group
  • Hughes moves off day-to-day sales toward group strategy and more M&A
  • Hughes met Weisz in 2025 through a friend in Entrepreneurs Organization (EO) Chicago

Deal Structure

Hughes walked me through the directional structure of both 2026 deals:

  • 30% cash at close, from cash on hand rather than borrowed
  • 30% deferred one year, contingent only on the seller doing the handoff work
  • 40% seller note over five years, monthly payments at market rate, option to pay off early
  • The note adjusts on first-year performance
  • If revenue falls below a threshold, seller note payments can be paused, and if above, can be paid off early
  • Legally, the company itself is the only guarantee
  • No personal guarantee from Hughes, none from the other brands in the group
  • Of note, Hughes’ deal terms adjust over time as he learns what sellers want… some want a job, some a partner, some just the purchase price

Strategic Rationale

Buyer (The Podcast Consultant):

  • Buys a client book in a segment TPC’s brand doesn’t currently reach…founders and SMB owners rather than regulated finance
  • Gets a salesperson in Weisz, who has 15 years of podcast relationships
  • Adds scale under a shared back office
  • Hughes: “Rise25 has built an incredible system for helping B2B businesses generate ROI”

Seller (Rise25):

  • Gives one founder an exit and the other a role at the new owner
  • Corcoran wanted to build an AI consulting business and needed liquidity
  • Weisz keeps the part he likes, sales and relationships, without having to own the P&L
  • Weisz: “The Podcast Consultant shares our commitment to making podcasting effortless”

Post-Deal Operations

  • Rise25 keeps its brand and operates independently… rise25.com is still live and makes no mention of the deal
  • Back office consolidates across production, ops, client support, tech, admin

 

–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

Two capital stacks, three years apart

Let’s put Hughes’ two capital stacks next to each other.

2023, buying TPC:

  • 10% cash at signing
  • 75% SBA 7(a) loan, 10-year term
  • 15% seller note over five years
  • Personal guarantees, plus a guarantee on Draft.dev, the agency he already owned

2026, buying Rise25:

  • 30% cash at close, out of pocket
  • 30% deferred one year, contingent on handoff
  • 40% seller note over five years
  • Company-only guarantee, nothing personal

Bank financing and the personal guarantee are gone from the 2026 deals.

SBA requires a full, unconditional personal guarantee from every owner holding 20% or more. Hughes’ description of 2023 was that you pledge all business and personal assets, houses included. In contrast, a seller note carries no such requirement. Sellers rarely ask for it, and buyers don’t volunteer it.

Why did the bank leave? 

SBA eligibility rules tightened and the partnership no longer qualified. Hughes says this happens every few years as US presidential administrations change the program’s rules, which is worth knowing if you’re a buyer counting on that money.

Here’s why that program is important for subscale creator deals. 

Banks don’t want to lend against asset-light digital services, because there’s nothing to repossess. A small podcast agency is a client list, industry expertise, a few contractors, a small production studio, and some B2B software. The only reason a $750K shop gets a loan is that the government guarantee absorbs most of the bank’s downside. If you remove it, the asset class is challenging to underwrite for a traditional lender.

Which makes the seller note here financing of last resort. The only reason it works is that the seller is the one lender who understands the collateral…since they built it themselves!

So the financing risk didn’t go away when the bank did. The seller took part of it on.

 

How he positions his offer to founders

Here’s how hHughes positions his offers to podcast co owners: before deep diligence, he tells the seller what the structure will look like. In specifics. If the seller doesn’t want paper they say so early, and both sides can walk away before spending time and money on deeper diligence. 

Speed is part of the offer too. Hughes says it won him two of three deals i.e. no SBA clearance, no credit committee.

(NOTE: the 3 main seller criteria we see at RockWater is speed, price, and certainty. Price is often not the deciding factor, and being creative across these 3 points helps us get deals done.)

So what is a seller relying on to get paid back?

Hughes’ answer was reputation. He intends to keep buying, and a buyer who stiffs a seller stops getting deals…especially in a market this small, where he’s sourcing targets himself and the sellers all know each other, or can easily pick up the phone for a reference. He’s also a future seller, with a 2030 exit in mind. 

And his practical point: working something out with a counterparty beats a bank or a courtroom. Repeat-player incentives are how most small-business M&A actually gets done, and they’re more reliable than enforcement via written contracts.

(SIDE NOTE: litigation is brutal, and I know from an incident early in my career. One of my biggest professional mistakes was not settling out of court, and instead being driven by ego to “make a point” that ended up costing me tons of time and a worse outcome. A story for another day.)

It’s worth remembering the seller’s POV going into a subscale size deal. They’re often eager, a bit isolated, carrying the business alone and wanting risk off the table. Seller’s remorse can show up in a lot of sales processes; a good advisor reminds the seller why they came to the deal table in the first place, and helps them have conviction both before and after deal close. 

 

Who’s actually bidding, at both ends

Hughes’ POV on his competition is that he isn’t seeing many others doing what he’s doing. Not many bidders, no competitive sales processes. That means a seller at his target size gets an offer from him, or keeps operating the business.

That makes sense. Private equity and larger strategic buyers pay attention at bigger scale. And brokers skip deals this small because the fee doesn’t cover the work, or takes too much out of the seller’s pocket at close. Asset flipping marketplaces exist but don’t specialize in creator x podcasting, so they have a limited buyer pool.

On size, Hughes’ estimate is that there’s at least 100 podcast production companies with more than two employees. A small market. But the reason he likes it is churn…he puts annual revenue churn in these targets’ books at 5% to 10%, which for a services business is excellent. That translates to sticky business models, unglamorous VS larger “sexy” M&A, and at compelling price points because nobody else is actively bidding.

Hughes’ target companies also got me thinking about something else. 

Remove the word podcast, and a B2B referral-engine shop looks like an SEO agency from twenty years ago. Recurring retainers, sticky clients, a small team delivering a service. Those have traded for decades. A similar business model, but in a new medium.

The top of the deal market is different. 

Deals are clearing quickly for scaled digital x podcast x social marketing agencies, which have established M&A precedent; we cover these extensively on our deal blog. Creator tech trades like SaaS. Then there’s YouTube-native and personality-led media, with comps that we’ve covered in detail.

But precedent isn’t a standard. 

Even on social marketing agency deals, the most well-trodden part of this market, I see a wide spread in structures that buyers propose e.g. majority cash at close with rollover equity. While others attach a seller note to a business doing tens of millions in revenue. Same category, same quality of asset, yet the structures look nothing alike. It gets less settled the further you move from the agency model toward YouTube channels and personality-led businesses.

What’s interesting for these businesses is who writes the big checks.

  • Dude Perfect, $100M+ from Highmount Capital, a fund about a year old at the time (our analysis)
  • Hot Ones, $83M, to a group led by Soros Fund Management, a family office (our analysis)
  • Complex, $109M, to NTWRK, a live shopping operator (our analysis)

These are buyers from outside the legacy media PE playbook. The buyer pool is widening, and it’s helping to define the new market I talked about in our 2026 RockWater predictions. 

 

Getting reps in

Hughes is under 40 and spoke about his podcast rollup experience to date like a training program. He framed it as reps…”if you want to get good at buying and selling companies, go do it ten times.” Then you learn the systems for how to do it bigger and better each time over.

I’ve watched a lot of people grow in our creator industry. IMO he’s found a real niche, he’s built a system that works, and he’s compounding credibility with both sellers and lenders every time he closes on a deal and pays off the seller note. My guess is he sells this portfolio around 2030 and then runs the same playbook at five or ten times the size, in podcasting or somewhere adjacent within the creator x social space. 

This is a guy and a business to watch.


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Hi readers,

Patrick Whitesell’s WTSL just made a strategic investment in Unwell at a $500M valuation. This is the first outside capital Alex Cooper and Matt Kaplan have taken since starting the business in 2023. The check size, ownership stake, and other deal details were all undisclosed.

What caught my attention was what Cooper said after the deal announcement, and in regards to the growth plan.

She told TheWrap she’s looking to acquire creative agencies. She told CNBC the agency arm will “rival financially the podcast business” by the end of 2027. So the plan is to grow through M&A, across both its media and brand partnership businesses.

That’s new for this category. 

Personality-led media co’s have historically built their audience and revenue capabilities rather than bought buying them. Acquisitions happen, but as smaller bolt-ons while the company continues to scale up. Making M&A the core growth engine, and executing the inorganic playbook at scale, would set a new precedent for creator-led businesses.

Below: I walk through why this growth strategy isn’t yet widespread in our industry, what we found when we sized the network and what may or may not be included in this deal, why the SiriusXM ad sales rights are probably the most valuable thing within the Unwell umbrella, and what the trademark record says about how Cooper got her IP back from Barstool.

Also: we’re hiring an M&A Coordinator.

 

–COMPANY: Unwell–

Overview

  • Digital media co built for Gen Z women
  • Spans podcasts, social, film/TV, live events, and a creative agency
  • Co-founded 2023 by Alex Cooper and Matt Kaplan, who serve as co-CEOs
  • Self-funded from founding until Aug 2026
  • Operates under holdco Trending
  • Roughly 100 employees
  • HQ in New York

Company Highlights

  • Call Her Daddy is the #4 largest podcast in the US (Edison Podcast Metrics)
  • 13.3M monthly Call Her Daddy downloads (Podscribe est)
  • 12 shows in the Unwell Network
  • 70M women reached monthly
  • 100M followers across the ecosystem
  • Unwell Creative Agency clients include Google, Babylist
  • There are press reports of team and leadership challenges. You can Google those – I don’t know what’s true VS speculation. Overall, there are some growing pains that need to be sorted.

Founding Story

  • Going back to the early days…
  • Cooper and Sofia Franklyn launched Call Her Daddy in 2018. Barstool signed them about a month later, on a 3-year deal that gave Barstool the IP
  • In 2020, contract talks blew up. The show went dark, Barstool founder Dave Portnoy said publicly he was losing about $100K per missed episode, and Franklyn walked. Cooper then re-signed solo. The deal that brought her back had the IP reverting to her in the future. Her line to Fortune: “The moment Dave Portnoy was like, ‘I will give you your IP,’ I was like, ‘Great, I will do anything'”
  • Cooper served out her Barstool term and then signed with Spotify in June 2021, a deal reported at $60M+ over three years. I believe Barstool kept no economics in the show, just a merch collaboration
  • Cooper and Kaplan (married 2024) launched Trending in 2023 as the holdco for their ventures, and the Unwell Network followed in Aug with Alix Earle and Madeline Argy as founding talent
  • Kaplan brought ACE Entertainment, his prod co behind To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before and XO Kitty. Per the co’s release, ACE’s “production, financing, and distribution infrastructure” folded into Unwell from the start
  • Disclosure: I worked with Kaplan and various members of the Unwell team during my time at AwesomenessTV

Business Model & Services

  • Podcast network…
  • 12 shows. SiriusXM holds exclusive global ad sales rights to the audio and video eps, so Unwell does not sell its own network inventory. Fees come from the SiriusXM agreement (est $100M+ over 3 years, signed 2024) less rev share to hosts.
  • Unwell Creative Agency…
  • Launched Oct 2025. Creative and media work for brands, with Google and Babylist named. Project and retainer fees.
  • Film and TV…
  • Netflix (Icebreaker, Let’s Marry Harry), Hulu (Love Overboard, plus the Call Her Alex doc), Disney+ (Hannah Montana 20th anniversary special). Production fees and backend.
  • Live events…
  • Theater-scale tours plus branded activations at SXSW and Vegas. Fees via ticketing and sponsorships.
  • Consumer products…
  • Unwell Beverages, launched with Nestlé at Target in Jan 2025. Wound down Aug 13, 2026.

Ownership

  • Cooper and Kaplan retain majority ownership post-investment
  • WTSL’s stake was not disclosed

Financials

  • Unwell is private and has never disclosed financials. Cooper told CNBC the co has been “profitable since day one” and that the round “wasn’t about needing cash infusion.” The only revenue benchmark we have is from the SiriusXM deal mentioned above.

Select Capital Markets History

  • 2023: Cooper and Kaplan founded Trending, self-funded. Unwell Network launches in Aug
  • Jan 2025: Unwell acquires the Going West and Cheers! podcasts, terms undisclosed
  • Oct 2025: Unwell Creative Agency launched as its own entity
  • Aug 12, 2026: WTSL makes a strategic investment at a $500M valuation

 

–INVESTOR: WTSL–

Overview

  • Investment firm founded by Patrick Whitesell, co-founder of WME and former Executive Chairman of Endeavor
  • Focused on media, entertainment, and sports
  • Backed by Silver Lake with a reported $250M commitment
  • Jason Lublin, Endeavor’s longtime CFO, joined as President and Partner in June 2025
  • Josh Pyatt joined as Partner in 2026 to run WIN Artists

Founding Story

  • Here’s an executive summary, because the Endeavor unwind is quite complicated → Silver Lake took Endeavor private in a ~$25B deal that closed in Mar 2025. Whitesell cashed out and departed, reportedly taking $100M at closing, and as part of the same transaction Silver Lake committed $250M to seed WTSL. 
  • Separately, because Silver Lake co-CEO Egon Durban had bought about 7.5% of the Raiders, NFL conflict rules forced WME to divest its football representation biz. Whitesell took it and relaunched it as WIN Sports Group.

Three-part operating structure

WTSL is not just a check writer. There are three pieces of its business.

  • The investment arm buys minority stakes.
  • WIN Sports Group is a full NFL representation business, repping Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, and Nick Bosa. 
  • WIN Artists, launched Mar 2026 under Josh Pyatt, manages athletes and entertainers building companies outside their primary field.

What’s noteworthy: WTSL bought ~10% of Peyton Manning’s Omaha Productions in Mar 2025, and twelve months later WIN Artists launched with Omaha named as a client. So they first bought an ownership stake, and then layered on their agency service offering.

One structural note. I couldn’t find a Form D for WTSL in SEC full-text search. A Form D is the short filing a private fund or company makes when it raises money under an exemption from full SEC registration, and it’s usually the first public datapoint from a fund. No Form D + a single named backer + the word “initial” attached to that $250M suggests the structure is a balance-sheet holdco VS a committed fund with a defined life. Aka long term, flexible capital that’s attractive to portfolio companies who don’t want to operate under a ticking clock. 

Investment Portfolio

WTSL doesn’t publish a portfolio list. A few write-ups attached a list to this deal, but I couldn’t confirm most of it. Here’s what I could verify via quick research:

  • Mar 2025: ~10% of Omaha Productions at a valuation north of $750M, per CNBC sources
  • Jun 2025: joint venture with Universal Music Group on artist and estate IP outside recorded music, terms undisclosed
  • Mar 2026: led the Series A in Working Capital Partners, which lends against athlete and entertainer future revenue, terms undisclosed
  • Aug 2026: strategic investment in Unwell

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

  • Announced Aug 12, 2026
  • WTSL makes a strategic investment in Unwell at a $500M valuation (unsure if pre or post money)
  • Forbes framed the investment as into “The Unwell Network” specifically, where other outlets said “Unwell” broadly
  • Unwell’s first outside capital since its 2023 founding
  • Cooper and Kaplan retain majority ownership
  • Key deal terms are undisclosed

Strategic Rationale

Investor (WTSL):

  • Buys a minority position in a founder-controlled, profitable media co. Similar to the Omaha deal seventeen months earlier
  • Gets exposure to a top-5 US podcast without buying the whole business
  • Can attach WIN Artists to the roster like it did with Omaha Prod
  • Whitesell spent twenty years doing talent deals at WME, expert in the asset class
  • Whitesell: “Alex, Matt, and the team have demonstrated an exceptional ability to anticipate where audiences are headed”

Company (Unwell):

  • Cooper says the co didn’t need the money, which means the funding is for growth and acquisitions
  • I’d guess this wasn’t a quick process. A profitable co with no funding need doesn’t run a capital raise process… it takes meetings until an investor has an aligned vision and cultural fit is strong
  • Brings Endeavor-grade dealmaking to a corp dev function that was just stood up in 2026 under Samir Sama, ex-Raine Group
  • Cooper: “the company is now also poised to accelerate our media platform’s growth through acquisitions and investments”

Post-Deal Operations

  • Cooper and Kaplan stay on as co-CEOs
  • Joanne Bradford, hired as President in Apr 2026 out of Honey, SoFi and Pinterest, runs the operating business
  • No announced leadership or structural changes tied to the investment
  • Unwell Beverages wound down the following day

 

–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

Nobody in creator-led media has grown primarily this way…yet

Personality-led media co’s typically build their audience and capabilities organically, VS growing inorganically through M&A.

For example, Dude Perfect took $100M+ from Highmount in 2024 and spent it on a Texas HQ and executive hires, not acquisition targets. Dhar Mann built a YouTube studio to 200 people and a 125,000 sq ft Burbank lot without doing any acquisitions (though he hired a head of corp dev out of Jellysmack last year, so that may be changing). Mythical is an interesting datapoint… they bought Smosh out of the Defy bankruptcy in 2019, sold a majority stake back to the founders in 2023 while keeping a minority piece, and have since been divesting non core assets like the Sporked sale to Savage Ventures (our analysis). 

Going back even further, The Ringer (led by Bill Simmons) and Team Coco (led by Conan O’Brien) both exited for nine figures without ever buying a company. Barstool (led by Dave Portnoy) did two small bolt-ons early on, but the talent and show roster was built, not bought. 

The strategy is the same across all of them, which I wrote about back in 2020 (our analysis). Lead talent-as-founders with real taste, curate and empower the next tier of talent behind them. As I put it then, “many of the most popular fan favorites on the Barstool roster of 70 personalities were incubated from within,” and Simmons “uses his taste and instincts to curate a talented pool of personalities that align with, and expand the scope of, his voice.” Then as part of that strategy, companies often strike a few tentpole deals that lift everything underneath it. Team Coco did that, with a premium talent partnership like the Literally! with Rob Lowe show. Of note, the flagship show Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend was the anchor that incubated the whole network, and up-and-comer creators including his long time assistant, around it (our analysis).

As we assess the current creator-led media landscape, the closest precedent is Steven Bartlett. His prior agency business made a few small tuck-ins back in 2022 and 2023. But the creator company he’s building now was built organically (our analysis of their recent fundraise). And he came up in the business through agencies, so he was buying in a market he already knew. If Unwell acquires agencies, they’d be running that trajectory in reverse, going from media and audience into services.

Of course, the organic growth path for creator-led brands isn’t a sure thing either. 

Bloomberg’s Ashley Carman just published a deep dive on Audiochuck, which is an organic build…Crime Junkie is still the #2 podcast in the US, and last year Ashley Flowers took $40M from TCG (our deal analysis), hired executives, and set out to diversify the business beyond herself. Since then roughly 30 of 100 employees have left including the new CEO, the subscription product plateaued around 75,000 members, the second-biggest show got canceled, and former programming partners are suing. Carman’s read is that it speaks to “the difficulties creators have when trying to diversify their businesses beyond themselves, having to cede control and partner with new people.”

Same problem Unwell has. Flowers hired to solve it, where Cooper plans to buy. 

Of note, I don’t think this is only about agencies. Cooper’s line in the release was about accelerating “our media platform’s growth through acquisitions and investments,” which is broader than services. My takeway is that the target list runs across talent relationships, new show formats, and agency capability all at once… and they already bought two podcasts in Jan 2025, so the template exists on the media side too.

Which raises a question; do they have leadership who can acquire AND run social agencies, or is that outside the current in-house expertise? WTSL brings real deal chops, but integrating agencies post-close and continuing to grow them thereafter is a different beast entirely.

Marketing agency consolidation is something we’ve covered extensively on our deal blog, where the simplest industrial logic is cross-selling more services into more brand relationships. It just hasn’t been the growth engine of a personality-led media co before. New precedent, and we’ll be tracking it closely.

 

What we found when we sized the Unwell network

We did a review of the assets that could be part of this deal, starting with the network talent and shows.

The cleanest third-party data comes from Edison. Call Her Daddy is the #4 podcast in the US. No other Unwell show appears anywhere in Edison’s Top 50.

On magnitude, we use Apple US ratings counts as a rough proxy: Call Her Daddy has 163,458 against 17,365 for the other eleven shows combined. Cooper’s show is roughly 9x the rest of her network put together.

A caveat on that proxy…ratings accumulate over a show’s life, so an older show looks bigger than it actually plays today. But the gap here is quite wide and noteworthy.

There also seems to be two content networks, not just one.

Going West does 10,562 Apple US ratings on 2,667 YouTube subs. Audio-first, true crime, a 700+ episode back catalog that Unwell acquired in Jan 2025. In Your Dreams does 136 Apple US ratings against 27.9M YouTube views. Video-first, built in house.

There’s no single metric that values both halves; the audio AND the video businesses. Which is exactly the convergence we walked through in the Backyard Ventures analysis last week (our analysis)… podcast businesses are video businesses now, and the operators who win are the ones who can sell across both. Worth noting SiriusXM took audio AND video rights back in 2024 when they did the deal with Unwell. They saw it coming.

Which raises the question: what’s actually in this deal?

Forbes framed the investment as into “The Unwell Network.” Every other outlet said “Unwell” broadly. The beverage biz wound down the day after the announcement. ACE Entertainment still runs its own website with no Unwell branding on it. And we don’t know whether the SiriusXM contract sits inside the perimeter of this deal or alongside it.

For a diversified talent business, that distinction is key to the total $500M valuation. I want to know what’s in and what’s held back from the new WTSL partnership. At that valuation range, my bet is that it includes the SiriusXM partnership.

Here’s what I do find telling. Shows two and four by audience, Going West and Cheers!, were both acquired in Jan 2025. Terms undisclosed, and Going West still credits Dark West Productions as producer, which might signal more of a distribution or licensing deal than a clean buyout. Either way, a chunk of the network was bought or licensed rather than built.

Therefore, Unwell isn’t proposing something they’ve never done. They ran the experiment eighteen months ago at a smaller scale, and it seems to have been a good bet. With funding behind them I’d expect that to accelerate, through licensing as much as acquisition. More shows means more inventory, and inventory is what the agency business needs to sell against.

 

The Unwell ad sales rights are the prize

SiriusXM holds exclusive global ad sales rights to Call Her Daddy and the entire Unwell slate: audio and video, and current and future shows.

That’s the single biggest margin opportunity in the business, and Unwell currently doesn’t control it.

Last week we walked through what these sales rights and capabilities are worth. Acast paid $20M for Backyard Ventures, a podcast and creator ad sales business doing $16.1M gross bookings at 12% adjusted EBITDA, which equates to a 10x valuation multiple (our analysis). Backyard charges “industry standard” commission on brand revenue, which is likely in the 20-30% range based on our own client experience. Audioboom, which is public, runs a 21.5% gross margin on the same model.

So call it 20-30 points of margin that currently sits with SiriusXM rather than Unwell – though the counterpoint is that SiriusXM might be taking a smaller % spread when you net the upfront minimum guarantee paid each year to Unwell. Which siriusXM is prob glad to do in order to have a tentpole asset in its offerings for media buyers, which improves its client pitches and overall network sell-thru).

This makes me think about Omaha Productions as an informative benchmark. 

Omaha counts Silver Tribe as a key sales partner, and Silver Tribe was itself bought by TPG-backed Initial Group last December (our analysis). So even with WIN Artists servicing Omaha, the company still needed a third party for D2C and brand partnerships. Unwell bringing network ad sales in-house would be a different answer to the same problem.

Buy or build that function and Unwell recaptures the spread, and more importantly owns the brand relationships directly. Those same relationships are what you cross-sell agency services into (and those new services are what Unwell now plans to go and acquire). That is very likely the math Unwell is running ahead of its renewal with SiriusXM, and in turn, it gives them significant deal leverage they don’t have today.

This is timely. The deal was signed Aug 2024 on a reported three-year term, but content didn’t start rolling out until 2025. If the clock runs from signing, they’re prob in negotiation talks right now. If it runs from launch, they have another year.

What I do know is that SiriusXM is in a strange spot to be renewing into. Their merger talks with iHeart collapsed in June over which stations would need divesting. Podcasting is their bright spot, up 30% in Q2. And they just became the exclusive US audio ad sales rep for YouTube, which their CFO said won’t contribute meaningfully until the back half of 2027.

So the Unwell renewal probably will be sorted before the YouTube deal pays off. Either SiriusXM needs this asset more than ever to hold their podcast momentum, or they’re stretched heading into it. Their equity market cap is roughly $9.5B against $9.45B of long-term debt, and content dollars are visibly migrating toward sports. To be clear, $42M a year is only about 3% of their guided free cash flow, so affordability isn’t the question…appetite might be.

(btw we represent some agencies that could bring these sales capabilities to Unwell. We look forward to talking with their corp dev team).

 

How Cooper got her IP back, and why it matters

I had Claude run the USPTO records.

Barstool filed the Call Her Daddy trademarks in Nov 2018 and owned them outright. The 2020 renegotiation is when the ownership changed. Portnoy had said publicly, “We’re not gonna do this deal if you don’t give us ownership of Call Her Daddy because it makes no sense.” Within weeks he’d conceded it to keep Cooper from walking. The IP assignment to Cooper was recorded in Nov 2021, and the marks now sit with Cooper’s holdco IP entity (TRNDG IP, LLC) alongside the Unwell portfolio.

Another interesting factoid: Barstool filed a Call Her Daddy mark for alcoholic beverages in 2019, took five extensions, and then let it go abandoned in Mar 2023. Cooper’s team filed Popular Vodka in Nov 2024.

There’s more research one could do here and I don’t know whether Barstool kept any future rev share in that 2020 deal. Portnoy has said the ongoing relationship was merch plus an unnamed project, with no revenue guarantees.

Of note, none of this changes the WTSL deal. But it matters for anyone building a talent holdco, because big talent will come and go, and how entry and exit deals get struck is something that any holdco operator needs to know how to navigate. Alix Earle walked out of Unwell with the Hot Mess IP in Feb 2025. Cooper walked out of Barstool with hers. Talent holdcos will be a foundation of the modern creator economy, and the ones that last will get these structures, in both the coming and going of talent, right.

 

On the $500M valuation, I just don’t know

A valuation attached to an undisclosed check is not a significant valuation benchmark IMO. 

If the check is 1% of the cap table, that number cost the buyer very little to agree to. If it’s 20%, it’s a real price with real conviction, and likely material capital, behind it. Nobody has reported any of these details, and the press outlets can’t even agree whether it’s pre or post money.

We see much of this in early fast-growing industries, which includes the creator economy. People react to a headline instead of doing the work to understand what sits underneath it, and there’s almost always more nuance in these deals than gets reported. If you’re buying or selling in this space, knowing that difference is how you make good strategic decisions.


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–SELLER: Air Mail–

Overview 

Founding Story

Company Highlights

Business Lines / Service Offerings

Capital Markets History

 

–BUYER: Puck–

Overview

Founding Story

Company Highlights

Business Lines / Service Offerings

Capital Markets History

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

Strategic Rationale

Post-Deal Operations

 

–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

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–TARGET: Steven.com–

Overview

Founding Story

Company Highlights

Business Lines / Service Offerings

Capital Markets History

 

–INVESTORS: Slow Ventures & Aperion Investment Group–

Slow Ventures Overview

Slow Ventures Creator Fund Overview

Slow Ventures Creator Fund Investment Criteria

Capital Markets History

Apeiron Investment Group Overview

Company Highlights

Investment Criteria

Capital Markets History

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

Strategic Rationale

Post-Deal Operations


–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Let’s break it down…

 

–SELLER: Experiential Supply Co–

Overview

Founding Story

Company Highlights

Business Lines / Service Offerings

 

–BUYER: Night–

Overview

Founding Story

Company Highlights

Business Lines / Service Offerings

Capital Markets History

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

Strategic Rationale

Post-Deal Operations


–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

 

 

 

 

I’m the founder of RockWater Industries. We do M&A and strategy advisory for creator economy and digital agencies. From buy / sell-side M&A and fundraising, to consumer research and go-to-market planning.

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Let’s break it down…

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–TARGET: Jomboy Media–

Overview

Origination Story

Company Highlights

Business Lines

Content footprint:

Capital Markets History

 

–BUYER: Major League Baseball–

Overview

Company Highlights

Business Lines

Capital Markets History

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

Post-Deal Operations

Strategic Rationale


–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Let’s break it down…

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–TARGET: Good Good Golf–

Overview

Origin Story

Business Lines

Content Highlights

Company Highlights

Capital Markets History

 

–INVESTOR: Creator Sports Capital–

Overview

Company Highlights

Investment Criteria

Investment History

Company Name Deal Date Investment Type Industry
Good Good Golf Mar-25 Later Stage VC Golf Content and Clothing
Cohere Jun-23 Later Stage VC AI and Machine Learning
Toonsutra Jun-23 Seed Round Webtoon Platform
BrandArmy Jan-23 Early Stage VC Creator Economy Networking
Nyan Heroes May-22 Early Stage VC Gaming Platform
1Bstories Jan-22 Early Stage VC AI Short Form Video Platform

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

Post Deal Ops

Strategic Rationale

 

–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–

 

 

 

 

 


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Let’s break it down…

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NOTE: We know the RSV founding team well, and have worked with them. Therefore, we can’t go into details about estimating financials and deal details, and will focus our analysis on public domain info. 

 

–TARGET: Red Seat Ventures–

Overview

Company Highlights

Business Lines

O&O Live Events Brand: CrimeCon

Capital Markets History

 

–BUYER: Fox Corp–

Overview

Company Highlights

Channel Name

U.S. Rank

Nielsen Audience

Fox News Channel

2

3.8M

FOX

4

2.2M

Fox Sports 1

35

242K

Fox Business Network

53

132K

Fox Deportes

112

15K

Fox Sports 2

116

10K

Business Lines

Stock Price

Financials

(via public filings and stockanalysis.com)

Valuation

Capital Markets History

Recent Media M&A History

 

–DEAL DETAILS–

Overview

Post Deal Ops

Strategic Rationale

 

–WHAT ELSE I FIND INTERESTING–


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